Home-Education – is it worth the hassle?
June 15, 2010 in Morality, Our Lady, Uncategorized, United Kingdom, catholic schools, homeschooling, tradition, usa by webmaster | 40 comments
There does come a day when you actually finish home schooling your children. I have reached that day this year with our daughter’s graduation from high school. As I work my way through the empty ‘school desk’ syndrome and begin to look at myself anew and consider my possibilities for the future, I can’t help but reflect back on what I found most important in our experience.There were many days when home schooling was a test of endurance, patience and faith, and other days when I turned it into race and almost burned out, but mostly I managed to keep the pace even, trying not to pass up too many rest stops. I had to completely remake our home life. I learned the Faith, and also received the Catholic education I was never given – both of these gifts were worth the work of home schooling and I doubt that they would have happened without it. Click here to read more
We’ve never had a thread on the topic of home-schooling before, so for those who are concerned about the state of a Catholic Education System that lets heretics like laisized priest, Professor Thomas Groome loose to malform the teachers, home-education is an option you may wish to consider. As you will see from the above article, however, it is not at all plain sailing, so the question for discussion has to be – is it worth the hassle?
Tags: catholic schools, heresy, home-schooling
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Naomi on June 16, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Is it worth the hassle? To do one’s utmost to ensure that that ‘pearl of great price’ is not lost to our children, of course the answer is ‘yes’.
To me home-schooling in this country has been all about safeguarding the faith. When my own were educated, one by the Christian Brothers and one by the Jesuits, in the decade of Vat II, I thought they would get the best Catholic education that could be found in the Church. While they (God help them) almost immediately lost the faith – one to become a fervent Episcopalian and the other to become totally non-practising, I was busy teaching other people’s children to hold fast to the faith. How I wish that I could have those years back again. Now I can only place my trust in daily prayers for them to Our Lady of Lourdes, St. Joseph, and St. Monica.
Nobody but the parents, in this day and age, can be entrusted with this task. Doing my best with hindsight, I persuaded my now Episcopalian son to take his fiance to a Catholic priest, whom I had met at university, and whom I perceived as a good and holy priest, to prepare them for marriage. I failed to understand the hidden warning when he said “I will gladly instruct them, but you might not like my manner of so doing”. Shortly afterwards he ‘left the priesthood’ and married. Later I heard that he had said “I don’t care what sort of belief in the Real Presence the Africans hold – all I want to do is relieve their poverty”. I now know he must have told my son and his lovely fiance that one religion is as good as another. Truly a ravening wolf in sheep’s clothing to deceive ‘even the elect’.
As to the wider issues such as bullying, peer-pressures, etc. etc., as reasons for home-schooling – I have no opinion to offer – maybe other bloggers do. For me it is above all the faith that matters.
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rebel on June 16, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Naomi,
reading your post above, my first thought was that you should take legal action against the diocese for this dereliction of duty. No business employee would get away with rubbishing his “product” like that in the world of work. Why should these heretics get away with it?
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Kevin1 on June 16, 2010 at 7:35 pm
I wondered whether this comment was germane to the thread – although I think it may be – I wanted to tell you about a good friend of mine who I have known for 30 years and watched her kids grow up. She sent her 3 kids to Catholic primary and secondary schools and assumed they were being taught the Faith (which they weren’t) while she struggled with having to work to make ends meet. Her husband is non-Catholic. Her (now adult) children all still seriously practice – admittedly they attend the Novus Ordo Mass – (I’m working on that . . . ), but that is something, I guess. They have had all their children (my friend’s grandchildren) baptised and they are practising as well. My friend’s son, met a girl and she converted to Catholicism before marrying him. He wouldn’t co-habit until they were married. How often does that happen these days? The MAIN point I’m trying to make here about my friend’s kids, is that although not home schooled, they seldom had access to a television during their formative years. The family are now so close and still interact in a way that I have seldom seen in this country – I think even if you can’t home school for whatever reason, dropping the TV makes a BIG difference.
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Tomas de Torkay on June 17, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Gee, Ed, for all the interest in this topic, you should have titled it “Posting a thread on home-schooling: is it worth the hassle?”
I would like to add to Naomi’s axiom about safeguarding the faith: in the present dark time, it has also become about safeguarding the family, i.e. the domestic church, which is under sustained and orchestrated attack from the godless State. While no one can predict the outcome of their faithful parenting, I’d say odds are pretty good that home-schooled children are far more likely to embrace civilized values, and be immune to the depravity of the media/entertainment juggernaut, than are publicly schooled children.
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editor on June 17, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Torkay,
To be fair, we’re having a spate of gorgeous weather over here, so maybe that’s why this thread is slow.
Which reminds me – I”m supposed to be doing nothing more than popping in from the garden to collect the ice cream and lemonade, so…. talk later!
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Insight on June 17, 2010 at 6:37 pm
The Catholic Schools on Long Island, NY are doing a wonderful job. I guess we are lucky.
God Bless
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Ita on June 17, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Insight,
I’m wondering what you mean by “doing a wonderful job”? How does that show itself? Are there high rates of Mass attendance among the young and plenty of priestly and religious vocations and do they wait for marriage, not cohabit, etc?
I’ll be really impressed if that is the case.
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gloria on June 17, 2010 at 11:11 pm
I’m not married, therefore do not have children. But if I were a mother of children, I would be worried if not terrified of how they would grown up in todays world. Education as they say begins in the home, and it would be an enormous fight against the State school system – where the so called Catholic schools do not teach children the Catholic faith.
Is home schooling worth the hassle?
Yes it is, and I’d bet my bottom dollar on it. Or rather, I’d bet my last £ sterling on it.If I may reiterate Archbishop Lefebvre -
‘Do I have to become protestant to remain a Catholic’.
The crisis in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church since Vatican II, has meant so many people have lost any notion of the Teachings and Doctrines of the Catholic Faith. It is terrifying to think of the numbers of people who might now be in hell or are possibly on route there since the 1960s.Am glad to be back on the blog, hopefully having gotten rid of the computer problems.
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Barbara on June 17, 2010 at 11:47 pm
I agree, gloria, that it is worth the hassle, or would be if you had the wherewithal to home school in the first place. I think if I were bringing up children in today’s crisis, I would pull out all the stops to home school. Now that I know the type of “experts” who are lecturing the teachers and priests, (Tom Groome) I wouldn’t trust my children to any so called Catholic school.
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Tomas de Torkay on June 18, 2010 at 1:54 am
Insight
I grew up on Long Island – Whitestone, to be exact. Unfortunately, I wasn’t Catholic at the time, so I couldn’t comment on your post.
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AnneDroid on June 18, 2010 at 11:33 am
Kevin1, thank you for your comment which I find encouraging.
I have four children and they are not home-educated. There are three reasons for this. One is that we need my wage. The second is definitely that I would be a dreadful home-educator. I lack patience, am not good enough at time-management, and so on. Thirdly I do think it’s good for children to interact with others and get a realistic view of the world as it is.
I myself had a sheltered childhood. I am grateful for it of course, but realise that I was just a bit too naive as a young woman which landed me in various scrapes I’d rather not go into here!
My children (14, 12, 10 and 9) are very strong in their faith. They absolutely love going to church, albeit that’s partly because they have lots of friends there. Kevin1’s comments encourage me to hope that they’ll continue into adulthood as committed as they are now.
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editor on June 18, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Unfortunately, AnneDroid, the stats are against you. Most pupils lapse from the Faith during their secondary school years in so called Catholic schools.
The simple fact is that the Catholic schools are not teaching the true Faith. End of.
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AnneDroid on June 18, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Sorry, editor, I didn’t make myself very clear.
What I meant was that it is my hope that (1) our children’s very happy experience of church thus far (2) the many social opportunities they have with the believing children of our believing friends and hopefully above all (3) the faith-filled home where Jesus is the ever present unseen guest and the Bible is our framework will all outweigh the huge deficiencies in the way in which they are taught (or not taught) the Christian faith at school.
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Clare on June 18, 2010 at 1:56 pm
AnneDroid,
Home educated children do interact with others. They are often involved in activities such as martial arts, swimming, music, art, and the like. They don’t just spend all day, every day indoors at home!
And, as for a realistic view of the world. Do children get that at school?
I home school/home educate. (British home schoolers can be quite prickly about the term “home school” I’ve noticed!) I don’t see that I have any choice at the moment.
Incidentally, here’s a funny article from The Onion, about the modern trend for… school homing!
http://www.theonion.com/articles/increasing-number-of-parents-opting-to-have-childr,17159/ -
rebel on June 20, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Clare,
That article from The Onion is just hilarious. The conclusion that “Simply put, it’s just not the job of parents to raise these kids” is priceless.
AnneDroid,
I know some children who are home-schooled and they interact with their peers and other adults much better than state schooled children who are nearly always painfully difficult to have a conversation with.
Bullying is now a basic fact of life in schools and it can really damage young people for life. Also, in any school setting, children make their own friends and get by in their small groups, pairs or groups of threes and fours. They don’t really have that many friends at all.
I’ve also found that home-schooling parents make an extra effort to get their children into clubs etc. so that they do mingle with others of their own age and also have a wider variety of interests than most schooled children.
I’m also curious about what you mean by your children’s “happy experience of church thus far” because, no offence, but it smacks of the “we must make sure young people enjoy Mass” which I think is the wrong thing. We should be making sure they receive the graces of the Mass and then we’re into a whole new discussion about “which Mass?” The new Mass encourages this “enjoyment” attitude and that means getting everyone actively involved doing things, and I don’t think that can last, so I’d be concerned about what it is your children’s friends are “believing” – believing that they need to be doing things at Mass, for example, is a false belief and sooner or later will lead to disillusionment and giving up the practice of the faith.
I hope, of course, that this does not turn out to be the case at all.
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Bernadette on June 21, 2010 at 1:43 pm
I have been home educating now for over 1 year with my 12 year old daughter, and now I intend to withdraw my 7 year old son from school too and as well as home educate my 5 year old son from August 2010. The first year of home educating is definitely the most difficult but definitely worth the hassle – There are always ups and downs – everyone’s circumstances are different, and sadly there are times when children need to be put back into school. I have met with many families, mainly large families of 6+ children who would agree that home educating is worth the hassle. Some of these families have experienced many difficulties but they still continue. I know of one family who do not have much money with 6 children including a new born, living in a 3 bedroom house, and who have turned one of the bedrooms’ into a school room and the parents sleep in the lounge. These are amazing people, who accept sacrifice for the faith and salvation of the children. Our children are entrusted to us by God, and we have a duty to get them to heaven. The true end for our children is not university, a big house, and two cars in the drive – our true end is heaven.
I hope I am successful at home educating my children, and I will do my utmost to keep them out of our government-run concentration camps (state school) but I now know that its not a degree in teaching I need, it is my daily prayers (especially the rosary) and mass that I need. My faith is most important to me and my family, and there is always something more we can learn about our faith and the various miracles that have taken place and that take place for us in our daily lives all the time – the questions is do we recognise these miracles of grace which we personally received.
I do apologise if I have ranted on a bit but Yes, I do agree home education is worth the hassle but we cannot do it alone we need God’s help every day.
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Barbara on June 21, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Bernadette,
Your post is just beautiful. If I needed any convincing about homeschooling, that would have done the trick. You sound like the perfect mother and I hope your children know how blessed they really are.
You hit the nail on the head when you said it is all about getting to heaven, not university. I wonder how many Catholic parents think like that? Not many. You are in the graced minority and thank God for parents like you. You are the future of the Church.
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AnneDroid on June 22, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Bernadette, I echo Barbara’s admiration of your post!
Rebel, you said: “I’m also curious about what you mean by your children’s “happy experience of church thus far” because, no offence, but it smacks of the “we must make sure young people enjoy Mass” which I think is the wrong thing…….” and “I’d be concerned about what it is your children’s friends are “believing” – believing that they need to be doing things at Mass, for example, is a false belief and sooner or later will lead to disillusionment and giving up the practice of the faith.”
Re my children’s happy experience of church thus far, Rebel, I’m only describing how it is. They love going to church and that isn’t because our church sees itself as in the entertainment business. They love going to church because their faith is real and they recognise in their fellow attenders of all ages, that the church is their family – I don’t know if they know the word fellowship but fellowship is what they are finding at church, especially since so many of their schoolfriends are not churchgoers.
I asked my kids the other day what was the best thing about being a Christian. They had different answers (which is fine because I think there are lots of best things!) which included (a) we are never alone because God is always with us, (b) we have God’s help with things, (c) we can look forward to eternal life when we die and (d) we are part of a big family.
Re your kind concern, Rebel, about what my children’s friends are believing, we are blessed by having many Christian friends with children of similar ages. We make an effort to provide opportunities to let these friendships flourish. These kids and their parents believe what we believe, and we hope that this will be good balance against the non-churchgoing kids they are surrounded by at school.
Can I just make clear by the way that I am not opposed to home educating – I really admire those who can and do do it!
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Petrus on June 22, 2010 at 2:03 pm
AnneDroid
I’m interested in this whole “We are a big family” phenomenom. These Christian families that set such a good example to your children, do they accept children lovingly from God? Do they rejoice in large families and accept the Church’s teaching on contraception? Do they go to Confession regularly and honour the beautiful traditional devotions of the Church?
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gloria on June 22, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Petrus,
I think we should give credit where credit is due, and if AnneDroid has managed to get her children going to Mass and happy about going, that is a good thing. The whole issue of contraception etc. is for another thread. This is about the children and their schooling.
AnneDroid, well done for having succeeded in getting your children to Mass and for setting them a good example and surrounding them with believing friends.
My only reservation is the use of the word “fellowship” because it smacks of Protestantism. Catholics never used that word until all the ecumenism became fashionable and suddenly we use Protestant terms even in prayers and hymns. As somebody else said on another thread not long ago, when are we going to have an ecumenical meeting where everyone prays the rosary?!
So, my final question, AnneDroid is, when you say your children have lots of “Christian” friends, do you mean “Catholic” friends or friends from all denominations?
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Petrus on June 22, 2010 at 10:02 pm
gloria
With respect, you are wrong – spectacularly! Contraception is a huge part of the problem today. If you can’t see the link between modern parishes, modern schools and modern families’ sexual ethics, then I’m afraid you are part of the problem too.
“well done for having succeeded in getting your children to Mass and for setting them a good example and surrounding them with believing friends.”
My point is that contraception cannot be treated as a side issue. If these families don’t accept the Church’s teaching on contraception then they are not good examples, or “believing friends”. I don’t buy into this “cafeteria Catholicism”. It’s all or nothing. I just cannot accept that the Novus Ordo Mass can produce good fruit.
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Ita on June 22, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Petrus,
With all due respect to you, gloria was not saying that contraception is a “side issue” but she was pointing out that it is a good thing if parents get their children to Mass and interested in the faith. There’s nothing to stop us praising AnneDroid for her efforts to raise her children in the faith. We all know that contraception is a very important issue, but as gloria said, we are here to discuss homeschooling. If you can’t find it in your heart to give praise to a parent of good will like AnneDroid, then you really should take a good look at yourself.
To be honest, I never ask any parents whether or not they are using contraceptives. That is not my business. If parents tell me their children are attending Mass, whether the NO or not, I say “that’s good news” – we can all agree that it is a start.
If my memory serves me right, you are a newcomer to the old rite. Please don’t take offence, but it has been my experience in conversations that the older Catholics are much more understanding and patient with people who attend the NO than the newcomers to traditional Masses. It always surprises me, because you’d expect more understanding from people who’ve had to make a leap themselves. It’s a bit like a heavy smoker or a heavy drinker, expecting everyone to give up these bad habits overnight when it’s taken them years to do so.
As for the novus ordo cannot produce good fruit – that is to restrict God’s grace. God can bring good out of anything, so that is a bit strong. God knows that the parishioners are not to blame for the NO and not even the younger priests who haven’t known any other kind of Mass.
What I cannot accept is that any truly humble Catholic soul, would condemn just about everyone in the Church for not being perfect – because that is really what you are saying: “it’s all or nothing” – something that is very easy to say but very difficult to live out. Do you really give God “all” every day, all day? I’m sure AnneDroid does accept all of the Church’s teachings, and unless she says otherwise, that’s what I will go on believing.
AnneDroid, I would also like to know if by “Christian” friends you mean all sorts of Christians or just Catholics?
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Petrus on June 23, 2010 at 8:54 am
I just cannot believe the way this blog has turned out. Unbelievable. I can’t believe that the standard of blogging has dropped to such an abysmal level that we are praising families for attending the Novus Ordo and accepting and praising the Alive-O mentality of “We are all one family”. It’s outrageous. Whatever happened to the good old days were the Faith was defended? This is why so many of us have stayed away for so long. The 30th June cannot come quick enough, for this blog truly has “outlived it’s usefulness”.
Ita, it is “all or nothing”. Sure, we all make mistakes, but we must strive for perfection. You’ll never reach that goal by praising the half-baked practices of the modern Church.
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editor on June 23, 2010 at 9:50 am
Petrus,
I think you are completely misunderstanding what the other bloggers are saying. Nobody has failed to defend the Faith. For somebody to fail to defend the Faith, another has to attack it. AnneDroid has not attacked the Faith.
I am actually not sure of what you are saying by way of contribution to this thread. Instead of doing what so many have done before you – insult this blog (because, frankly, none of us cares what you think about it and those who keep changing their views tell us more about themselves than about this blog) why not make clear what you think “defending the Faith” means in relation to AnneDroid’s post. A good teacher does not suddenly switch topic when teaching a particular subject.
So, for example, what advice would you give her about home-education as it applies to her situation?
Do you think, for example, she would be better advised NOT to take her children to the novus ordo? Would it be helpful for you to ask her location in order to suggest possible churches where she would find the TLM? Or do you think she should only attend the SSPX in which case you could give her a link or addresses to attend. Maybe you could post a link to the Ottaviani Intervention if you think that would help her.
As a general rule, it is better to try to help people in as many practical ways as possible, to get them where we would like them to be (at a TLM) instead of turning every discussion into an attack on the novus ordo. That’s easy to do. Remember, like it or not, the novus ordo is, at the moment, an accepted form of Mass which even Archbishop Lefebvre accepted as a valid rite. And remember, when you read his Open Letter to Confused Catholics, it becomes clear that he was witnessing some extreme abuses in the NO that we are only now experiencing in Scotland.
A point made by someone – rebel, I think – gave me pause for thought, because it’s something I’m guilty of myself. She said that those who are relative newcomers to the TLM are very impatient with those who are still attending the NO. I’m like that and I need to catch myself on, because it is not a good attitude and it doesn’t work.
In all the years I was attending the NO we had a member of the Catholic Truth team who attended the SSPX. Not one, not ONCE did he make me feel bad or inferior for attending the NO. Indeed, he listened patiently (and in retrospect, probably with a great deal of frustration) when I would ring him after Sunday Mass to moan about the various scandals I had witnessed that morning, which ranged from idiot organists playing secular or heretical “hymns” to laity prancing around giving out Holy Communion.
I often think of his patience with me and he did much more to encourage me by his example and well chosen, courteous words, than he would have done had he told me he was a much better Catholic than me because I was attending the NO.
I’ve had more emails, Petrus, bemoaning the loss of this blog than I would ever have dreamed. Most of them made reference to the one thing they didn’t like about it, which was the occasional nastiness coming from bloggers who seemed to think they were more Catholic than the rest of us.
I’m sure you are not really one of them, since, for the most part, your posts have been a cut above those types. Please don’t spoil it now.
Take my word for it, in charity, none of the posts on this thread are denying the Faith. Not one.
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AnneDroid on June 23, 2010 at 11:17 am
Gloria: My only reservation is the use of the word “fellowship” because it smacks of Protestantism.
I mentioned on a previous thread that I work in prison. A life sentence prisoner who was 12 years into his sentence had become a Christian 10 years earlier, 2 years into his sentence. He was quite a scary looking guy in his doc martens, and with his tattoos and big muscles, but through the grace of God had become a really lovely Christian brother, whom I am still in touch with even though he is now out of prison. Anyway, he put an interesting slant on the word “fellowship” for me. He told me that some (brave!) guys had been slagging him off for his faith and as he passed them on the way to a Prison Fellowship meeting, one guy shouted “Ha ha, is that you away to the Fellow Sheep meeting?” to which he turned round, smiled gratefully and said “Oh thanks for that. That’s really great. The Bible tells us that Jesus is our Shepherd and we are like sheep. I’m going to call it the Fellow Sheep from now on cos that’s what we are.” Needless to say the one who’d been trying to wind him up was left spluttering in frustration!
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editor on June 23, 2010 at 3:12 pm
AnneDroid,
While that’s an interesting story, I agree with gloria that we should avoid Protestant terminology. Language is important. You won’t hear a Protestant talking about praying the rosary or even the Pater Noster. Latin? You kidding?
I am also concerned that you are avoiding (or perhaps have overlooked?) the question about your children’s “Christian” friends. Are they Catholics or not?
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Eileenanne on June 23, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Editor,
I attend mass in the Ordinary Form and have seen many lay people distribute Holy Communion. While I would prefer that this role was reserved to the priest, I must say that I have never seen any Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion move in a way that could be described as “prancing”.
Eileenanne
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Tomas de Torkay on June 23, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Eileenanne
You’ve misinterpreted – i.e. taken literally – Editor’s use of the word “prancing,” and you are thus missing the point. Her point was, if I may be so bold as to speak for her, that the way Extraordinary Ministers comport themselves is not the issue. The issue is that laity are handling the Blessed Sacrament, which was, and should continue to be, absolutely forbidden, and which is but one of the many sacrilegious horrors of the Novus Ordo.
But what this has to do with homeschooling escapes me.
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Eileenanne on June 23, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Tomas,
I don’t think I have ever known a thread on the blog to stick to its subject so it would be a pity to change things at this late stage in the game!
Eileenanne
Editor: that’s simply not true, Eileenanne. People who have trawled this blog for information have been most complimentary on that very point, that they can find all the information they need on a particular thread and even links to previous threads on the same topic. Criticise if you must, but make it honest criticism.
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tereditor on June 23, 2010 at 10:31 pm
N O T I C E . . .
I received the following (beautiful) email from AnneDroid, which I publish here with her permission – as long as it is published in full, unaltered. Agreed.
Dear Editor
I will not be posting any further on the Catholic Truth blog although I will continue to read it until its sad demise, after which I will miss it.
My reason for not posting any more is that I am not a Catholic. I have never claimed to be one, but one and all (including yourself) naturally assumed I was and I didn’t correct it.
Please please believe me that the ONLY reason that I didn’t correct it was that I was worried that some of your more rumbustious bloggers would be rude and that in general my comments would be dismissed out of hand.
I might be labelled as “conservative evangelical” but the reason I have loved hanging out on your blog, mostly as a lurker, is that on many many many things I have learned that we agree.
I grew up in a very Orange Lodgy part of Scotland (though I have always detested both them and freemasonry)and although I had one or two RC friends I have learned so much more in recent years and had my eyes opened.
As I read your blog I see the love you, editor, and so many of your bloggers have for our Lord, and I share that love for Him. I am so impressed with your own personal graciousness in dealing with bloggers, and thank you for your kind welcome of myself.
I fear that you will be angry and hurt that I have misappopriated that welcome and deceived you and others by masquerading as something I am not, and not correcting people’s misunderstanding.
I’m not sure if you as editor have some way of accessing all the comments I’ve ever made (not many altogether) but if you were to do so I can promise you that you would find I have never ever pretended to be a Catholic and indeed have made no effort to rephrase my “protestant” (I hate that word as we are not protesting against Catholicism) language. But I do apologise unreservedly if I have distressed anyone, including yourself.
I pray for God’s continued blessing on you and yours. End.
AnneDroid,
Be assured that I am not angry with you at all and I do not feel at all that you have deceived us. On the contrary, I am touched that you even want to read our blog and delighted that you have participated.
Please do not feel hurt by the comments above. As you realise, we did assume you to be a Catholic albeit a modern one (not our favourite breed!)
I can tell that you love Our Lord, as you say, and it is also very clear to me that He loves you – immensely. How else would you have found your way to us????You are more than welcome to continue to post comments here, but I should “warn” you that we will do our best to share with you, the pearl of great price, which is our Catholic faith. I sense that you are very open indeed to the truth, so when you feel it is appropriate and you would like to join any discussion, feel free to do so – you are very welcome indeed. And don’t worry about those “rude” bloggers – I’ll sort them out, no problem!
On Saturday next – 26th June – we are having a little informal meeting in the Woodside Halls (see our website homepage
http://www.catholictruthscotland.com) when we will be discussing how the apparitions of Our Lady of Fatima in 1917 affects Scotland today –
http://www.fatima.org – and we will be giving some hard facts about the state of the Catholic Church in Scotland with some practical suggestions about how we can change things for the better.If you are free to come along, please do – I would love to meet you. There’s free parking outside the Woodside Halls on Saturdays and a cup of tea/coffee inside, so if you can be there – be there! We’re expecting quite a few, but don’t be intimidated. Everyone will be friendly – that I can guarantee.
God bless.
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Barbara on June 24, 2010 at 10:10 am
AnneDroid,
That is a really beautiful, very humble message. I hope you don’t stop blogging for the little time left now until the blog closes. Don’t worry about the “more rumbustious bloggers” (a very charitable way of putting it!)
I’ve been reading this blog a lot longer than contributing to it and I had them sussed ages ago. I watched them plague the atheist, and then when they’d driven him away, despite editor’s best efforts, they left as well. I guess if they start on you, editor will have them for breakfast! -
rebel on June 24, 2010 at 10:15 am
I second that Barbara. AnneDroid, you always post very interesting comments, so don’t stop now. You didn’t mislead us – we just assumed you were a Catholic but that’s no big deal. It sounds like you’ve got a Catholic heart – so who knows what the future holds for you?
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rebel on June 24, 2010 at 10:17 am
Before I get a lecture from a “rumbustious blogger” I better make it clear that I don’t mean that it is “no big deal” if someone is not a Catholic. I know it is a “big deal” since God will us all to be in his Church. I just meant it is no big deal that we were “misled” because AnneDroid didn’t set out to mislead us. I’m sure that is any of us had asked her if she was a Catholic, she would have told the truth, so us presuming she was a Catholic is no big deal. I hope that makes is clear what I meant in my post of 10.15.a.m.
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AnneDroid on June 24, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Thank you so much, Editor, Barbara and Rebel, for your kind words. x
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Petrus on June 24, 2010 at 4:37 pm
AnneDroid
I’m probably one of those rumbustitious bloggers. It’s just one of a long list of character faults. I apologise for being so heavy handed with you. I just jumped to the conclusion that you were Catholic.
I hope you’ve learnt a lot from this blog and that it has planted some seeds. Some of us, mainly me, are a bit too hot headed. That’s because our faith is attacked from within and we love the Church so much. I have found that I’m always on the attack, which isn’t a great thing at all. The one thing that you can be certain of is that, despite our differences and idiosyncrasies (I’ve got more than most, but not as many as the editor
) we are all committed Catholics who love Christ and His Church.I understood what Rebel meant when she said ‘no big deal’. Its a cause for rejoicing that you have come to this blog to learn. God bless you and your family.
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editor on June 24, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Thanks Petrus, for that lovely post – and I’m sure you wouldn’t want to be heavy handed with (modern) Catholics either: they’ve very much victims in all of this as well.
I’m just home from being out there in the big bad world so have things to do (or more accurately “things to dust!) – this is just a quick “hello” to one and all.
On topic, briefly, spoke with a young mother today, who has decided to home-school her (almost) 8 year old son, so she is excited at the prospect, if a bit daunted. She has successfully home-educated her daughter for a year – but she had completed primary school and would have been entering first year at secondary. This is her first attempt at primary level.
Over and out for now!
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Petrus on June 24, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Editor
You might want to point your young friend in the direction of a friendly primary school teacher….. If you knew such a person, a meeting might be useful.
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Tomas de Torkay on June 24, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Sorry if I’ve missed it already posted, but is anyone keeping track of any legislation in the UK whose purpose is to heavily restrict, penalize and eventually outlaw home-schooling? I’m sure that such legislation is being drafted somewhere well out of sight, if it hasn’t been enacted already, since home-schooling fortifies the family, and a healthy family is the enemy of the godless tyranny of the EU State.
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editor on June 24, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Petrus,
I did just that. I think you’ll find an email awaiting you from said young mother!
Torkay,
If the Labour government had been returned, they had plans to clamp down on homeschooling. Not sure about the Coalition – they’re too busy clamping down on the poor and making the rich, richer.
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