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Is it, we keep being asked, possible for a Catholic to vote for any of the parties on offer in this forthcoming election?  A reader rang this morning to alert us to an article in the Telegraph, which reports the Liberal Democrats’ thoroughly illiberal policy on Catholic schools. Click here to read more

Elsewhere, the media are speculating about whether religious beliefs will make any difference to the election outcome. Will Christians, the BBC asks, swing the UK vote? Read the BBC commentary and then tell us what you think.   And, if you were a betting man/gal, what would you put your money on – and don’t say a hung parliament because it would be impossible to hide all those bodies…

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Visit the link below and tell us if you really do believe that America is the “land of the free”. 

http://www.nypost.com

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help_abort_181426.htm

And before we take the high moral ground here, notice that the UK is no better. 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/

health/8168721.stm

Click on ‘comments’ with your thoughts, now.

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Read the amazing story of Ted Atkinson, the frail and impoverished pensioner who has served time in prison for his endeavours to save the lives of unborn babies. He is to appear in court again on 4th March, facing another prison term of possibly 5 years.

 

 

 http://www.catholic

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report.pdf

 

 

Is this a correct use of Anti-Social Behaviour Orders (ASBOs)?   I certainly don’t think so – do you?

What should be done?  Is there anything we can do to have these ridiculous trumped up charges against Ted Atkinson dropped?  

 

The law is being enforced ever more oppressively in the UK against anyone who does not fall into one of the politically-correct, socially “acceptable” and suitably “diverse” groups.   For all the blether about freedom of speech and democracy, there’s precious little of it about for traditional Catholics and committed pro-lifers like Ted Atkinson. 

 

He travelled up to Scotland from his home in England to participate in our Conference last May and I met him – with disbelief – for the first time.  I say “disbelief” because I had not realised just how unwell Ted is.  He was stooped and on crutches.   I cannot believe that the so called forces of law and order are still pursuing this pensioner for the most trivial of reasons.

 

I received packet after packet of pornographic literature as a result of our one-only edition in 2007 carrying reports relating to homosexuality within the  Church in Scotland.  Yet the police said they could do nothing.

I wonder how much money and effort they’d have poured into investigating the matter if I had been receiving images of murdered babies rather than disgusting photos of men in crude and offensive poses.

 

What do you think?  Why cannot the people who see these images of butchered babies realise that abortion is the real crime?  Why shoot the messenger?  Do they really want to see an aged, very frail pensioner go to prison – again – for no other reason than they dislike his conscientious efforts to awaken people around him to the horror of procured abortion?

 

Click on ‘comments’ to tell us what you think.   Now! 

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Here’s the latest from the Scottish Catholic Media Office.  A gentle reminder from Cardinal O’Brien to examine your conscience if you are in the business of tampering with human life from its earliest stages. 

 

A wee bit of straight to the point teaching wouldn’t go astray here.  Why are our bishops so afraid to preach the truth and to warn against defying God’s moral order? 

 

That is the key question that should occupy us in this thread.  If I argue that Catholic doctors, nurses, scientists, researchers, lab technicians, must not participate in this work. am I right?  Am I wrong?

 

Read his statement below and focus for a moment on the piece in emphasis (italics, mine).   Ask yourself whether or not Cardinal O’Brien did his best.  Is this his best shot?  Did he strike the right diplomatic balance and if so is that what bishops of the Church are supposed to do? 

 

Statement from the Scottish Catholic Media Office follows…

 

12 December 2008

 

Cardinal O’Brien welcomes publication of Vatican document on human life.

 

Cardinal Keith O’Brien has welcomed the publication earlier today of the Vatican document “Dignitas Personae” on the subject of biomedical research.

 

The document prepared by the ‘Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith’

(CDF) and approved by Pope Benedict XVI, was launched at a press conference in Rome earlier today. Speaking after the launch, Cardinal O’Brien said;

 

“I welcome this unambiguous teaching document which affirms the church’s view that human beings are entitled to dignity and respect from the moment of conception and posses an absolute right to life. Sadly, in the course of recent years such universal and fundamental rights have been utterly destroyed in the UK most recently by the passing of the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act. As well as defending human life, this document also welcomes and endorses scientific research, making it clear that such work must be ethical and effective. I would urge any Catholic working in these fields to examine their conscience very carefully in the light of this informed and explicit teaching. Ultimately such individuals must ask themselves if their work is compatible with their faith.”

 

Cardinal O’Brien added;

 

“The United Kingdom has a shameful and scandalous record in the field of bioethics with no meaningful ethical oversight whatsoever and nothing but a string of expensive failures to show for decades of “anything goes” science.

It is worth remembering that over the last 18 years, the HFEA has never refused a license for preimplantation diagnosis or embryo experimentation and has never turned down any application to use human embryos. It has no members who hold the embryo to be inviolable. Meanwhile overblown promises of future success constantly manipulate the emotions of those suffering terrible illnesses. The example of ‘Dolly’ the sheep is instructive, born in

1997 it’s birth followed hundreds of grotesquely deformed earlier attempts, it died prematurely and the company behind its creation went out of business.

Yet the hype and superficial coverage surrounding that event suggested it was some kind of success story!”

 

Cardinal O’Brien concluded;

 

“I hope that the clarity of thinking shown in “Dignitas Personae” will inform debate here in the UK and encourage biomedical research which is ethical and successful such as that using adult stem cells. Since the passing of the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act in October, the UK (uniquely in the Western world) now allows experimentation on human embryos, human cloning, and the creation of part-human part-animal embryos. It even allows for tissue to be removed from individuals without their consent. We have set many nightmarish precedents in this country, I hope that as understating of the dignity of human life at every stage grows we will create a new culture of life in this country, where the deliberate destruction of human life is not licensed by the state and paid for by the tax-payer.”     ENDS

 

Well, folks?  What do you think?  Click on ‘comments’ to tell us what you think the Cardinal might’ve/could’ve/should’ve said.  We look forward to hearing from you!

 

 

 

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Last Sunday, we were horrified to hear Paisley-based priest, American, Fr David Cotter – in an interview on Radio Scotland’s ‘Sally on Sunday’ extol the vices of Barack Obama and boast that he’d helped him gain victory by postal vote.  When questioned about Obama’s support for “gay rights” and unrestricted abortion, Fr Cotter did the radio-equivalent of shrugging his shoulders and belittled those American bishops who had spoken out to warn Catholics not to vote for the barbarian Obama. He even named Archbishop Chaput and seemed genuinely at a loss as to why any Catholic bishop would not support Obama.  

Throughout the interview, Fr Cotter spoke about the “so-called life issues” dismissing abortion (i.e. the murder of the entirely innocent baby in the womb) while getting hot under the collar he probably wasn’t wearing, about the Iraq war and Guantanamo Bay.  In addition, Fr Cotter mocked the beautiful rendering of ‘Ave Maria’ played to give readers a rest from his smooth turning over of Catholic teaching on conscience.  In all, a totally disgraceful performance, but -as far as we know - no action has been taken against Fr Cotter – not even a raised eyebrow.  

Compare the case of Fr Cotter with that of Fr Jay Scott Newman in America – read this

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20081113/NEWS01/811130314&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

We posted the above article on our newsflash at the Catholic Truth website and alongside it we put another link to a letter to his parishioners written by Fr Newman, who was surprised at the news reports and wanted to explain that he was merely upholding the teaching of the Church.

Now when you click on that link, you find that Fr Newman’s letter to his parishioners has been removed and replaced with a link that takes you through ultimately to a disgraceful statement on the Diocesan website.  

Something of a Perry Mason mystery here, then.  Is Fr Newman is being pilloried and persecuted by the diocesan “authorities” for his attempts to faithfully pass on Catholic teaching on conscience and abortion to his congregation in the context of the American election and the deification of the candidate, now President-elect (thanks to the Catholic vote) Obama?  Or has the letter been removed to frame and hang in the Bishop’s Palace with Fr Newman tipped for “promotion” without delay?  You pays your money and you takes your bet, as our friends say south of the border.  I know where my bet goes.

Read the Diocesan statement here (or view the video) – click on the link below… 

http://www.catholic-doc.org/

Catholic Truth is the first non-American organisation to be awarded membership of the Catholic Media Coalition.  Our President, Mary Ann Kreitzer has posted Father Newman’s original letter (now removed from his parish website) with various links and commentary on her blog so click on the next link to read more  http://lesfemmes-thetruth.blogspot.com/

As you will see, there are contact details given, so please email Fr Newman to promise your support and prayers.  But don’t follow my bad example by emailing the Chancellor with a few stiff words – or maybe, on second thoughts, do…

Thing is, both of these priests can’t be in the right.  They’re acting in total opposition to each other.   But - which priest do you think ought to be disciplined? 

Tell us what you think – should Fr Newman be disciplined for upholding the Church’s moral teaching while Fr Cotter is supported for failing to do so?   We look forward to hearing your thoughts…

Update – 18/11/08

 

Today, I was proved wrong.  Contrary to my comment in yesterday’s update, Bishop Tartaglia had not stopped answering my emails.  And we must, at least, give him credit for this good grace – unlike some of his brother bishops, Bishop Tartaglia does reply to our communications.   In his email today, he writes:

 

“I know you will write what you want to write about Father David Cotter’s radio interview. I have attached a few thoughts of mine on the matter. I rather hoped you would moderate your attack on him in the light of these observations.”

 

Now, listen.   There ain’t been no “attack” on Father Cotter, here at Catholic Truth.  There is no shortage of gloves-off commentary on his radio performance, that’s true, but we provided a link to the show so that readers could hear him for themselves.  I’ve not had a single email nor are there any comments on the two threads about Fr Cotter arguing a different interpretation from mine, of his words and actions.

 

I know that calling him “Cowboy Cotter”, not to mention poor Sally Magnusson “Syruppy Sally” is not very nice.  But it is about the only perk there is in this job, that I get to use a wee bit of poetic licence now and again. There’s no money in it and the hours are terrible.   Truth is, I like Sally Magnusson.  She IS nice (and not really “syrupy” – sweet, not syrupy) And I’ll say this for her:  in all the years I’ve heard her on radio and TV, when she has frequently mentioned her Protestant faith, I’ve not once heard her mock any aspect of it.  Not once.  She is a loyal Protestant  – ‘Father’ Cotter take note.  So, I’ve been a bit naughty with the poetic licence, I’ll give you that, but we have to have a laugh, don’t we?

 

In any event, rather than go over the whole story again, I believe that – in order that justice be served -  the fair thing for me to do now is to publish Bishop Tartaglia’s commentary and allow readers to re-assess the whole situation in the light of his remarks.   If you think my interpretation has been flawed, please say so.  You’d be wrong, but my up-market team of regular bloggers will soon demonstrate that, so see if I care. Be upstanding now, please, for Bishop Tartaglia…

 

Bishop Tartaglia’s comments on Fr Cotter’s radio interview

 

Dear (Editor)

 

With regards to your various emails on the subject of Father David Cotter’s radio interview last Sunday morning on Sally Magnusson’s programme, “Sally on Sunday”, I hope you will bear in the mind the following in whatever you choose to write in Catholic Truth:

 

1)      Father Cotter’s interview was rather brief and could not be said to be an in-depth analysis of the matters which were touched upon rather superficially. It is most unwise and unfair to demonise Father Cotter on the basis of that radio programme.

 

2)      Father Cotter said nothing at all about Our Lady or about the Hail Mary. He merely suggested that the recording of Schubert’s Ave Maria which was played to him was not to his taste.

 

3)      Father Cotter revealed that he voted for Barak Obama in the presidential election. He tried to explain that a vote for Obama was not necessarily a vote for his policies in favour of abortion and gay rights. It is possible to discuss further what Father Cotter said, but it is premature and therefore unjust to infer the worst from what he said or did not say.

 

4)      It is reported that a goodly minority of American bishops advised Catholics in their diocese that abortion is not just one subject among others, but is a defining subject for the Catholic conscience. This is advice with which I totally concur. But, unless I am mistaken, no Catholic bishop said that American Catholics must not vote for Obama. They recognised that the choice had to come from within, not from positive law. And the United States Bishops’ Conference, which is very worried about Obama’s pro-abortion policies, did not have a declared position on which candidate Catholics should vote for.

 

 

5)      I am unwilling to bow to pressure to reveal what transpired between me and   Father Cotter about his radio interview.   Bishop Philip Tartaglia

Ed:  I’ve emailed to thank Bishop Tartaglia for this response and to remind him that I did not expect him to spell out what transpired between him and Father Cotter; I merely asked for his reassurance that he would address the issues with Fr Cotter and it would appear that he has, indeed, done so – I’m sensing that the above comments are Fr Cotter’s self-defence.  I could be wrong. Tell us what you think.

Update – 17/11/08

 Prior to posting this thread, I had an exchange of emails with Bishop Tartaglia who disagrees with my assessment of Father Cotter. Clearly, however, the Bishop knows perfectly well that openly supporting a politician as viciously devoted to the culture of death as Barack Obama is not quite the thing for any priest to do, and I suspect that he also realises that a priest who can mock the Hail Mary is not the kind of priest to whom you want to be seen giving your unqualified support, so he’s allowed himself this minimal qualification about Fr Cotter’s radio interview: 

 

There are many points for debate and discussion which arise from what Father Cotter said.  But it seems premature and hasty to conclude that Father Cotter has dissented ‘tout court’ from Catholic teaching.  (Bishop Tartaglia, email, 13/11/08)

 

“Premature and hasty?”  I don’t think so.  Let’s take what Fr Cotter said about conscience.   To clarify Fr Cotter’s remarks, the Bishop must answer the following question…

 

May Catholics vote for a political candidate who not only supports abortion legislation but wants to extend it up to birth?  (Remember, John McCain, alternative candidate, is pro-life).

 

Bishop Tartaglia has stopped answering my emails, so there’s no point in me writing to ask him if Father Cotter has correctly described the teaching of the Church on conscience (even tongue in cheek). 

 But, why don’t you ask him that key question?  Email bishopphilip@paisleydiocese.org.uk

 

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News that young Americans are as secularised as any Humanist and that Spain – an allegedly Catholic country –  plans to introduce machines to crush the bodies of babies aborted up to the 7th month of pregnancy really does beg the question about whether we can, in fact, any longer speak of “a Catholic conscience”.  We must ask the question of ourselves, seriously: is the Catholic conscience dead? 

Consience, the Church teaches, is not a teacher of doctrine.  We cannot decide for ourselves what is right and wrong claiming that our “conscience” tells us so.   We know that.  We know that we cannot tell the policeman who pulls us over for speeding that our conscience told us that it was OK to drive over the limit.  The cop would only get his breathalyzer out. 

Conscience has to be formed and a Catholic cannot defy the teaching of the Church – which comes from Christ – on grounds that our conscience tells us that it is all right.   It is the Church, not individuals, who have been entrusted with guardianship of the moral law; it is Peter to whom Christ entrusted the keys of the kingdom and the right and the duty to speak in His name.  We cannot ignore these truths without fearing for our eternal salvation.

click on the two links below – firstly to read about the Spanish scandal and secondly  to vote against the extension of the UK abortion law to northern Ireland which, to date, has steadfastly held out against all attempts to force them to submit to the culture of death.

 http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=13981

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Anti-Abortion/

Then click on ‘comments’ to tell us what you think.   Is there no longer any such thing as “A Catholic conscience”?   Are Catholics no different from anyone else in our increasingly secular society when it comes to moral issues?

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More Pope-bashing over Humanae Vitae, as the media mark the 40th anniversary of the encyclical.  Of course the media muffins have moved on from attacking the Church’s refusal to  tell us it is OK to contracept ourselves out of existence, to blaming the Church for the spread of AIDS. 

           Here’s an extract from the 24 July Scotsman article…

The biggest issue of all, though, is that the social landscape has changed dramatically in the last 40 years due to the arrival of HIV as a global pandemic. Those who oppose the ruling argue that church teaching has been particularly disastrous in the developing world, where the hierarchy can exert huge influence over family planning policies.

Humanae Vitae remains as controversial as it was 40 years ago. Its critics argue that it has never been accepted by many Catholics – in the light of liberating developments such as the Pill, they simply acted with their consciences and ignored the teaching. Time and a desire by the Church to avoid overemphasising the dogma appear to have caused confusion among the Catholic laity. A recent survey conducted by the liberal pressure group Catholics for Choice revealed that in the US, 79 per cent of people thought that the promotion of condoms was sanctioned by the Vatican.The biggest issue of all, though, is that the social landscape has changed dramatically in the last 40 years due to the arrival of HIV as a global pandemic. Those who oppose the ruling argue that church teaching has been particularly disastrous in the developing world, where the hierarchy can exert huge influence over family planning policies.”It is forced to defend a teaching that was judged indefensible 40 years ago and has become more so with the arrival of new issues such as preventing the spread of HIV/Aids”, says John O’Brien, president of Catholics for Choice.” 

Time and a desire by the Church to avoid overemphasising the dogma appear to have caused confusion among the Catholic laity. A recent survey conducted by the liberal pressure group Catholics for Choice revealed that in the US, 79 per cent of people thought that the promotion of condoms was sanctioned by the Vatican.

“It is forced to defend a teaching that was judged indefensible 40 years ago and has become more so with the arrival of new issues such as preventing the spread of HIV/Aids”, says John O’Brien, president of Catholics for Choice.

The entire article - ridiculously entitled 40 years on: Papal Defiance of Sixties Culture has grim legacy –  can be read online at http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/opinion/40-years-on–Papal.4319077.jp

It seems clear that the real ”grim legacy” is not the Church’s message to use sex as God intended it to be used, but rather, the disease, divorce and remarriage(s), promiscuity even among children, all of which took root in the sixties and the results of which we are struggling to deal with today.  What thinkest thou?

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